I regret that I have to be the one to inform everyone of this, but I fear MajorHavoc suffered an unfortunate accident caused by a computer glitch in an elevator control system three hours ago. They will be missed.
Looks pretty much opinionated. I like the colors and the whole of the image. I can agree with Gentoo Linux being very interesting, but not sure about CentOS. In that case I’d rather use Rocky or Alma, though for servers Debian fits my bill.
Not really sure how archinstall factors in since it wasn’t around yet when I first installed, but I love EndeavourOS. I’ve installed arch before, but I really can’t be bothered if I’m just going to end up installing all of the same packages the GUI could give me in less time anyway. Yeah, EndeavourOS is just arch with some small extra packages and a GUI installer, but that’s exactly why I like it.
Archinstall is not at all newbie friendly, especially compared to calamares and endeavourOS setup. Also, having a usblive is very convenient in case of problems.
If you don’t have advanced knowledge nor want to customize it very thoroughly, I don’t see any reason to use arch over endeavourOS. I mean, other than the fun of experimenting with the innards of linux, testing your frustration tolerance, and ending up being able to say “I use arch BTW”.
Without going into details on why you rank each distro the way you did, its just useless and baseless… Not helpful to anyone, at all, for any reason. Am I going to consult it for my next project? Absolutely not. I implore folks to do their own research and testing for their use case.
To add to this, another piece of this is: who are you that would make someone consider your picks over some other Joe schmoe ? Not saying your opinion doesn’t matter, but what I’m saying is what would make your opinion hold any weight to anyone reading? Your reasoning may help, but you didnt give that.
There are some head scratching placements to me. I understand this is your opinion (which is the point of a tier list), but I don’t understand why some of the placements are given. BTW I use EndeavourOS and feel like is the best distro ever and feel hurt by you personally. :D (just joking) How many of them did you actually use? I personally don’t like your list, like most people you would hurt with it. I have a lot of to say (just woke up and saw this list, you triggered me immediately).
Note: I only used a few handful of distributions and don’t know most of them by first hand.
The description for your Rankings are not unique to me. In example Mediocre, Bad and Completely Pointless seem to me all the same. And listing No Opinion at the end of a tier list makes no sense to me, because the reason for a tier list is an opinion.
CentOS, Amazing Ranking: I’m not sure if CentOS can be called amazing after all the betrayal to Open Source by Red Hat. Unless something changed here to the better. I don’t have an opinion on the base itself, as I never used this.
EndeavourOS, Completely Pointless Ranking: I think this is an excellent distribution and handles Archlinux very well. Compared to Manjaro (which I used prior) it is still very much Arch itself. To me this at least, even if you don’t like it, should be at least in Mediocre Ranking from you, which means there is not much reason to use over original Arch in your opinion.
Manjaro, Completely Pointless Ranking: I would put Manjaro besides Ubuntu, because I had my fair share of problems with Manjaro and their buggy tools and handling of the AUR. Also the developers or forum managers don’t handle things well too. It’s nowhere at the same level of EndevaourOS.
Fedora, Mediocre Ranking: I don’t understand this. Why is it ranked as very few reasons to use over counterparts? What is the distribution one should use over Fedora? It’s also leading edge, so there is a lot of reasons to use it.
Debian, Bad Ranking: Same reasons for Fedora, but in opposite direction. Why is a very stable and not changing much distribution bad to you? What would be the equivalent alternative to Debian, but a much better distro to you?
Have in mind, Debian and Fedora has a lot of spins too, but I think you mean the mainline versions only. But you listed all the variants for Ubuntu too, so a bit of inconsistent.
Pop!_OS, Zorin, Garuda, Completely Pointless Ranking: I really don’t understand these placements by you by any stretch of imagination. They have lot of work involved, styling, defaults and features that they either save time by providing a working out of the box experience for a certain kind of user (like Garuda) in example. PopOS is also a better Ubuntu basically, as it is based on Ubuntu like Linux Mint is. Why is Linux Mint Good, but not many of the other distros that have a similar reason to exist like Mint? I don’t get this.
Ubuntu, Maliciously Bad: I know all of the stuff here, you don’t need to tell me. I used Ubuntu for 13 years exclusively. But it’s not a bad distribution, it just does not what you want to do. I wouldn’t call it Malicious. But okay, I give you a pass here, because of all the controversy, history and what they did. So it’s understandable placement, but its not a bad distro in my opinion, just upsetting.
ElementaryOS, Deepin, Maliciously Bad: Can you explain to me what is malicious about these distributions?
This tier-list is terrible, but what really makes me really mad is that there’s no damn explanation, and that the tier-list is self-contradictory. Linux Mint good, Debian bad…but Linux Mint is indirect downstream of Debian, and it is really reliable, so the math ain’t working? Arch good, but Artix and Parabola bad - the only difference being that you get init freedom in the latter distros? And seriously, what is KDE Neon and GNOME OS doing over there - they exist to showcase the latest desktop environment beta? And according to your logic, AlmaLinux bad, but CentOS good - when the former came to substitute the dying CentOS? And Guix at the bottom, while it uses Guile Scheme, which is more wide-spread and accepted than the niche half-Haskell half-something-else Nix DSL - let’s also not forget the NixOS controversy and Eelco vs Nix community drama - and NixOS is somehow on the top-most list? ryantm’s bot is really good and keeps Nix packages upto date, but apart from that, Nix and Guix are the same thing minus their language.
CentOS good (after they betrayed open source) but Debian bad (even though they remain one of the more independent from corporate influence distros and also serve as the upstream for over half the list)? What even is this nonsense? I agree Ubuntu and its official derivatives maliciously bad and Manjaro completely pointless but that’s about all I agree with.
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Yeah I agree with this guy. This list is bad.
I just wrote an essay reply and don’t know why.
I see that you’re trying to bait us, but the Cult of Debian doesn’t talk about the Cult of Debian.
Wait, I didn’t mean to-
The council members would like to “speak to you” about a recent “developments” we’ve been made aware of. We assure you, nothing will happen to you…
I regret that I have to be the one to inform everyone of this, but I fear MajorHavoc suffered an unfortunate accident caused by a computer glitch in an elevator control system three hours ago. They will be missed.
FYI : The embedded OS in the elevator infrastructure was the [NOT DISCLOSED] OS.
there is a cult of Debian? where do I sign up?
😁
This should be linuxmemes forum, not a serious one.
It’s blatantly somewhere between unfunny joke and obvious troll.
Tier lists and opinions are one thing and sometimes they look funny or trolly, but based on the only one answer from him to any of the replies is:
I would assume the same as you.
Looks pretty much opinionated. I like the colors and the whole of the image. I can agree with Gentoo Linux being very interesting, but not sure about CentOS. In that case I’d rather use Rocky or Alma, though for servers Debian fits my bill.
D*bian 🤮
C*ntOS 🤯
I was hoping to find a discussion.
Arbitrary, exactly like any other distro tierlist
A random one every month.
Has anyone made a tier list of distro tier lists yet?
@thejml @technom And then start a craze so you can make tier lists of tier lists of distro tier lists
smart
Do a religion tier list next.
Brofessional!
This list is so bad, it has to be a troll.
it’s missing hannah montana linux :(
Not really sure how archinstall factors in since it wasn’t around yet when I first installed, but I love EndeavourOS. I’ve installed arch before, but I really can’t be bothered if I’m just going to end up installing all of the same packages the GUI could give me in less time anyway. Yeah, EndeavourOS is just arch with some small extra packages and a GUI installer, but that’s exactly why I like it.
I feel exactly the same! I installed EndeavorOS because I liked the default theme lmao
Archinstall is not at all newbie friendly, especially compared to calamares and endeavourOS setup. Also, having a usblive is very convenient in case of problems.
If you don’t have advanced knowledge nor want to customize it very thoroughly, I don’t see any reason to use arch over endeavourOS. I mean, other than the fun of experimenting with the innards of linux, testing your frustration tolerance, and ending up being able to say “I use arch BTW”.
Without going into details on why you rank each distro the way you did, its just useless and baseless… Not helpful to anyone, at all, for any reason. Am I going to consult it for my next project? Absolutely not. I implore folks to do their own research and testing for their use case.
To add to this, another piece of this is: who are you that would make someone consider your picks over some other Joe schmoe ? Not saying your opinion doesn’t matter, but what I’m saying is what would make your opinion hold any weight to anyone reading? Your reasoning may help, but you didnt give that.
Posting tier lists with no context isnt helpful…
this post is bad and you should feel bad for posting it
Tier lists are opinion-based, but I don’t share yours
By the comments, no one does
There are some head scratching placements to me. I understand this is your opinion (which is the point of a tier list), but I don’t understand why some of the placements are given. BTW I use EndeavourOS and feel like is the best distro ever and feel hurt by you personally. :D (just joking) How many of them did you actually use? I personally don’t like your list, like most people you would hurt with it. I have a lot of to say (just woke up and saw this list, you triggered me immediately).
Note: I only used a few handful of distributions and don’t know most of them by first hand.
The description for your Rankings are not unique to me. In example Mediocre, Bad and Completely Pointless seem to me all the same. And listing No Opinion at the end of a tier list makes no sense to me, because the reason for a tier list is an opinion.
Have in mind, Debian and Fedora has a lot of spins too, but I think you mean the mainline versions only. But you listed all the variants for Ubuntu too, so a bit of inconsistent.
This tier-list is terrible, but what really makes me really mad is that there’s no damn explanation, and that the tier-list is self-contradictory. Linux Mint good, Debian bad…but Linux Mint is indirect downstream of Debian, and it is really reliable, so the math ain’t working? Arch good, but Artix and Parabola bad - the only difference being that you get init freedom in the latter distros? And seriously, what is KDE Neon and GNOME OS doing over there - they exist to showcase the latest desktop environment beta? And according to your logic, AlmaLinux bad, but CentOS good - when the former came to substitute the dying CentOS? And Guix at the bottom, while it uses Guile Scheme, which is more wide-spread and accepted than the niche half-Haskell half-something-else Nix DSL - let’s also not forget the NixOS controversy and Eelco vs Nix community drama - and NixOS is somehow on the top-most list? ryantm’s bot is really good and keeps Nix packages upto date, but apart from that, Nix and Guix are the same thing minus their language.
Don’t forget LMDE
Also, you read the last column wrong.
CentOS good (after they betrayed open source) but Debian bad (even though they remain one of the more independent from corporate influence distros and also serve as the upstream for over half the list)? What even is this nonsense? I agree Ubuntu and its official derivatives maliciously bad and Manjaro completely pointless but that’s about all I agree with.